Wednesday, May 12, 2010

Re: [TheOptionClub.com] GS TRADE [was:How do you manage your Vega?]

 

This reduces the loss area at expiration to between 145.08 and 160.07
with a max loss of 20.33 at 150. Can one always eliminate such areas
by selling ATM premium and buying OTM premium? I doubt it is that
simple. I predict that Michael will do something new in this trade,
to be risk free after the last adjustment on 5/20.

On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:40:32 -0500, "mcatolico"
<mcatolico@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Update 5/11/10
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>Well sometimes the dumb trades work out. GS eventually capitulated today,
>vol declined along with the move. So I'll make an adjustment to chip away at
>some of the upside risk I created yesterday. Even though volatility
>continued to fade a bit, the risk adjustment trumps in this instance.
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>Adjustment
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>-5 140c/+9 145c $0.95 net debit
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>The more aggressive alternative is to add five -140/+145/+150 ladders for
>about 1.85 credit each. This trade, which I'll reject, further secures the
>downside with all kinds of credit, leaves some upside leverage but would
>require a very swift rally move. There's already a bit of gamma in the trade
>anyway so I'll opt for the "safer" adjustment listed above.
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>Net position
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>-5 140c/+5 150c/+2 155c/+2 160c/+1 170c
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>-1 165p/-1 145p/+1 135p/+2 130p
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>Net overall credit is $44.67
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>From: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of mcatolico
>Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 PM
>To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [TheOptionClub.com] GS TRADE [was:How do you manage your Vega?]
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>Update 5/10/10
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>I guess if you left the market last weds. and took a nice long weekend you'd
>think you missed some pretty uneventful flat trading. It's all about your
>time frame I suppose.
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>At any rate I can't see anything really great to do with GS. The atm
>straddle has a whopping $8 or so of extrinsic value with just 4 trading days
>to go. Normally I'd be looking to sell that but who knows where this can go?
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>I'd also consider selling deltas into this rally and trying to shore up the
>downside so that there'd be no risk there - something like selling six
>145/150 call verticals should do the trick.
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>Why not? I think that would make Sam happy!
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>Adjustment
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>-6 145c/+6 150c 1.95 credit each (11.70 net credit)
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>Net position
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>-9 145c/+5 150c/+2 155c/+2 160c/+1 170c
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>-1 165p/-1 145p/+1 135p/+2 130p
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>Net overall credit is $45.62
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>From: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of mcatolico
>Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:32 PM
>To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [TheOptionClub.com] GS TRADE [was:How do you manage your Vega?]
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>Update 5/7/10
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>GS stabilized (temporarily?) so all I'll look to do here is sort of
>rebalance the trade slightly as GS hovered around 143.
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>Adjustments
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>Add a call bwb +1 140/-2 145/+1 155 for 0.32 net credit
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>Sell the 145/140 put spread for 2.10 credit
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>The idea here is simply to kind of hover the trade around the 145 strike
>with what will look like mostly a butterfly with a bit of far otm gamma all
>in preparation of expiration week.
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>Net position:
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>-3 145c/-1 150c/+2 155c/+2 160c/+1 170c
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>-1 165p/-1 145p/+1 135p/+2 130p
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>Net overall credit is $33.92
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