Sunday, January 31, 2010

[TheOptionClub.com] Calendars and Iron Condors

 

I am thinking that I want to spend more of my efforts on Index Calendars and Index Iron Condors.

I have been watching as many of Dan Sheridan's videos (including the recent one on Option Club Thanks Chris)as I can find. So I know I have to be able to adjust on a timely basis.

For example Dan suggests a first adjustment on an Calendar when you are down 20% of your initial debit spread by replacing half of your calendars with calendars at the strike closest to the breakeven price.

It seems if I can remain disciplined this plan can work even in a volatile market.

My question are:

Do you prefer Calendars or Iron Condors, if you prefer one more than the other why?

What are your favorite indexes (SPY, SPX, RUT, DIA etc)and why?

Also, there are only 20 days left in February period would you play Feb or just wait a week and begin with a March Calendar?

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Re: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

I don't know that Options Explorer has been released, yet. It's a brand
new program developed within Dan's mentoring community. I expect that
it will be initially released within the community before it is made
publicly available.

We'll be having Dan back to do some additional presentations. I think
you will begin seeing him use his software during presentations rather
than OptionVue. That will give you a preview. I'll see what I can work
out with him in terms of pricing and availability for our community.

Keep in mind the software is new and while I'm sure it will prove to be
a very good piece of work, I always prefer to let someone else install
the v.1.0 release and wait until the the bug fixes are applied in
v.1.1...

Christopher Smith
TheOptionClub.com

--- In OptionClub@yahoogroups.com, Tim Miller <mueller6393@...> wrote:
>
> I have did a search on Dan's website and can find nothing on Option
Explorer. Can you post a link for it?
>

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Saturday, January 30, 2010

Re: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

Hi, thanks for the idea...(SPY)....I realize this is off topic for the OE vs OV subject line ... thanks.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Meuter Gisbert <gismeu@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Philip,

what is the underlying of your IC?
Maybe you could start scaling in short stock, i.e. sell for each short put 20 shares and as it approaches it further, sell more and if market should bounce (which is what I expect btw), then cover the short stock.
I would only do this if I could sit all day in front of a computer and had my trading platform open.

gis


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Philip Wu <ptwu452@gmail.com> wrote:


Yes -- on TOS thinkback I was trying to see if I had a large IRON condor position back in Sept-Oct 2008, what
strategy could have mitigated significant loss due to the steep decline during that period... it was not intuitive with thinkback, assuming I used it correctly.  
 
Given the recent market declines, my IC positions is approaching the short put leg...perhaps Chris will give us some
ideas in his webinars on what to do in the present market conditions...hedge with vxx or vxz or vix or butterfly on the short put or buy a further otm put...just rambling...
 
Thanks.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:16 PM, tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
 

Option Explorer and OptionVue have outstanding backtesting – which makes for a great learning / educational tool.  I use TOS and love their platform – but their thinkback is very very basic and their On Demand is a work in progress, limited back data period – and is a ways from being a good tool.

 

Also when looking at possible adjustments OV and OE give excellent visualization both before and after the adjustment.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Wu
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:01 AM
To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

Hi,  what functions/capabilities does Options Explorer have that is not available on ThinkorSwim ?

 

Thanks.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

As a previous user of Options Oracle – there's nothing wrong with it – considering it is free.  I assume you are a Sheridan Options Mentoring Student and have had a chance to see Options Explorer – Dan's software..  There is no comparison of the 2.  OE on par / and exceeding in most aspects OV software. (IMO)  Options Oracle is not in either of the above products league.

 

It you are modeling adjustments, back testing, etc…… either OV or OE fill that need.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of clay
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:39 PM
To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

I'm familiar with OptionsVue and was about to buy their software and then I saw where OptionOracle by www.samoasky.com was recommended. Can anyone give me their opinion? Is it like OptionsVue? I was holding out for the software than Dan Sheridan is going to roll out in February, but if Option Oracle is free, then SOLD!

 






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Re: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

Philip,

what is the underlying of your IC?
Maybe you could start scaling in short stock, i.e. sell for each short put 20 shares and as it approaches it further, sell more and if market should bounce (which is what I expect btw), then cover the short stock.
I would only do this if I could sit all day in front of a computer and had my trading platform open.

gis


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Philip Wu <ptwu452@gmail.com> wrote:


Yes -- on TOS thinkback I was trying to see if I had a large IRON condor position back in Sept-Oct 2008, what
strategy could have mitigated significant loss due to the steep decline during that period... it was not intuitive with thinkback, assuming I used it correctly.  
 
Given the recent market declines, my IC positions is approaching the short put leg...perhaps Chris will give us some
ideas in his webinars on what to do in the present market conditions...hedge with vxx or vxz or vix or butterfly on the short put or buy a further otm put...just rambling...
 
Thanks.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:16 PM, tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
 

Option Explorer and OptionVue have outstanding backtesting – which makes for a great learning / educational tool.  I use TOS and love their platform – but their thinkback is very very basic and their On Demand is a work in progress, limited back data period – and is a ways from being a good tool.

 

Also when looking at possible adjustments OV and OE give excellent visualization both before and after the adjustment.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Wu
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:01 AM
To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

Hi,  what functions/capabilities does Options Explorer have that is not available on ThinkorSwim ?

 

Thanks.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

As a previous user of Options Oracle – there's nothing wrong with it – considering it is free.  I assume you are a Sheridan Options Mentoring Student and have had a chance to see Options Explorer – Dan's software..  There is no comparison of the 2.  OE on par / and exceeding in most aspects OV software. (IMO)  Options Oracle is not in either of the above products league.

 

It you are modeling adjustments, back testing, etc…… either OV or OE fill that need.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of clay
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:39 PM
To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

I'm familiar with OptionsVue and was about to buy their software and then I saw where OptionOracle by www.samoasky.com was recommended. Can anyone give me their opinion? Is it like OptionsVue? I was holding out for the software than Dan Sheridan is going to roll out in February, but if Option Oracle is free, then SOLD!

 





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RE: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

I have did a search on Dan's website and can find nothing on Option Explorer. Can you post a link for it?

--- On Sat, 1/30/10, tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle
To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 3:16 PM

 

Option Explorer and OptionVue have outstanding backtesting – which makes for a great learning / educational tool.  I use TOS and love their platform – but their thinkback is very very basic and their On Demand is a work in progress, limited back data period – and is a ways from being a good tool.

 

Also when looking at possible adjustments OV and OE give excellent visualization both before and after the adjustment.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:OptionClub@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Philip Wu
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:01 AM
To: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [TheOptionClub. com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

Hi,  what functions/capabilit ies does Options Explorer have that is not available on ThinkorSwim ?

 

Thanks.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth. net> wrote:

 

As a previous user of Options Oracle – there's nothing wrong with it – considering it is free.  I assume you are a Sheridan Options Mentoring Student and have had a chance to see Options Explorer – Dan's software..  There is no comparison of the 2.  OE on par / and exceeding in most aspects OV software. (IMO)  Options Oracle is not in either of the above products league.

 

It you are modeling adjustments, back testing, etc…… either OV or OE fill that need.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of clay
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:39 PM
To: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [TheOptionClub. com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

I'm familiar with OptionsVue and was about to buy their software and then I saw where OptionOracle by www.samoasky. com was recommended. Can anyone give me their opinion? Is it like OptionsVue? I was holding out for the software than Dan Sheridan is going to roll out in February, but if Option Oracle is free, then SOLD!

 


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Re: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

y  , my leptop did not like it start to act crazy  :)






Nava Elgar  


From: "Mike Cleveland" <mikeandjody1996@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:57 PM
To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle


 

Has anybody tried OptionsOracle? It's free.


From: tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth.net>
To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 3:16:03 PM
Subject: RE: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

Option Explorer and OptionVue have outstanding backtesting – which makes for a great learning / educational tool.  I use TOS and love their platform – but their thinkback is very very basic and their On Demand is a work in progress, limited back data period – and is a ways from being a good tool.

 

Also when looking at possible adjustments OV and OE give excellent visualization both before and after the adjustment.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:OptionClub@ yahoogroups.. com] On Behalf Of Philip Wu
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:01 AM
To: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [TheOptionClub. com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

Hi,  what functions/capabilit ies does Options Explorer have that is not available on ThinkorSwim ?

 

Thanks.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth. net> wrote:

 

As a previous user of Options Oracle – there's nothing wrong with it – considering it is free.  I assume you are a Sheridan Options Mentoring Student and have had a chance to see Options Explorer – Dan's software..  There is no comparison of the 2.  OE on par / and exceeding in most aspects OV software. (IMO)  Options Oracle is not in either of the above products league.

 

It you are modeling adjustments, back testing, etc…… either OV or OE fill that need.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of clay
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:39 PM
To: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [TheOptionClub. com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

I'm familiar with OptionsVue and was about to buy their software and then I saw where OptionOracle by www.samoasky. com was recommended. Can anyone give me their opinion? Is it like OptionsVue? I was holding out for the software than Dan Sheridan is going to roll out in February, but if Option Oracle is free, then SOLD!

 


 


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Re: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

Has anybody tried OptionsOracle? It's free.


From: tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth.net>
To: OptionClub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 3:16:03 PM
Subject: RE: [TheOptionClub.com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

Option Explorer and OptionVue have outstanding backtesting – which makes for a great learning / educational tool.  I use TOS and love their platform – but their thinkback is very very basic and their On Demand is a work in progress, limited back data period – and is a ways from being a good tool.

 

Also when looking at possible adjustments OV and OE give excellent visualization both before and after the adjustment.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:OptionClub@ yahoogroups.. com] On Behalf Of Philip Wu
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:01 AM
To: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [TheOptionClub. com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

Hi,  what functions/capabilit ies does Options Explorer have that is not available on ThinkorSwim ?

 

Thanks.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:22 PM, tom stidham <tdstid1@bellsouth. net> wrote:

 

As a previous user of Options Oracle – there's nothing wrong with it – considering it is free.  I assume you are a Sheridan Options Mentoring Student and have had a chance to see Options Explorer – Dan's software..  There is no comparison of the 2.  OE on par / and exceeding in most aspects OV software. (IMO)  Options Oracle is not in either of the above products league.

 

It you are modeling adjustments, back testing, etc…… either OV or OE fill that need.

 

Tom

 

From: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of clay
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:39 PM
To: OptionClub@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [TheOptionClub. com] OptionsVue VS. OptionOracle

 

 

I'm familiar with OptionsVue and was about to buy their software and then I saw where OptionOracle by www.samoasky. com was recommended. Can anyone give me their opinion? Is it like OptionsVue? I was holding out for the software than Dan Sheridan is going to roll out in February, but if Option Oracle is free, then SOLD!

 


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