Thursday, May 6, 2010

[ConservativeOptionStrategies] Re: Maybe someone can help me out with this one

 

drjoe,
I was aware of the high percent cost, but in the interest of keeping my email concise decided not to delve into that aspect (wrong decision I guess). Anyway, I appreciate your answer as your advice and experience have been helpful.
My overall thrust was that given the rapid swings of ETF's like TZA, the value I pay for protection would, if the bear market analysis is correct, be quickly overcome by an upward move, at which point I would use a protective stop (and possibly sell any remaining value in the put).
At this moment, as I write, TZA has gone up a bit over 7%. If the bear continues, I would, as soon as my gain reaches in the area of 5% plus the cost of the put, switch to a tight trailing stop to protect the profit and sell any remaining value in the put.
I haven't done anything yet since my past history is full of examples of entering at the wrong time (so if I should buy TZA, I'll let the board know so that they can load up with TNA :-)). But I'll probably place a limit order for tomorrow.
I usually offset the costs of my protective puts, BTW, by selling a CC or CSP, but in this case, in order to keep things simple, I'm just exploring the basics (long on a volatile ETF, protecting it with a long put).
Any thoughts?
Lou

--- In ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com, "joe & leigh" <gass20@...> wrote:
>
> the may 6 put @ 0.30 is 4.4% (100% annualized) time value paid for 16 days of protection ..the june put @ 0.59 is 8.9% (74% annualized) time value paid for 44 days of protection doesn't sound cheap to me. but cheap is in the eye of the beholder....drjoe
>
> --- In ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com, "Louis" <loupi3@> wrote:
> >
> > If the market is turning bearish, as one of my subscriptions tells me, then I'm considering buying TZA, which closed @ 6.30.
> > The May $6 put is only .033 and even the June is 0.59 so protection is pretty cheap for this 3X contra, which makes for a very nice opportunity.
> > What am I missing?
> > Lou
> >
>

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