Look for the next support.. then you get some idea how far ...
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Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] pfe
Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] pfe
| PFE broke the $18.20 barrier even with div increase. wonder how far if it will drop --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Randy Harmelink <rharmelink@gmail.
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Re: [TheOptionClub.com] invest options for inflation?
Then there are others like Harry Dent, Bob Prechter, and Steve Keen (an Australian economist) who make a good case for a 1930's style deflation. (They all have good predictive track records). The U.S. government is pumping out trillions but the contraction in money supply caused by the 25-30 trillion in lost U.S.household wealth and hundreds of trillions in as-yet unrecognised worthless credit default swaps and mortgage backed securities totally swamps out a few trillion. Look at Japan where 20 years of stimulus hasn't accomplished anything but to keep zombie banks and companies barely alive. The Japanese stock market is still 50% below where it was 20 years ago.
I'm thinking the best investing approach is to be inflation/deflation market up/market down agnostic and just do one-month option spreads and re-evalute probable max market move each month.
Jerry
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Re: [TheOptionClub.com] invest options for inflation?
Definitely a good topic to take into consideration.
I'd suggest reading what the likes of Ron Paul, Peter Schiff and
others have to say on the topic of what happens to the economy when
the government spends in deficit, borrows recklessly and prints money
like it was going out of style (and it is ...)
Happy New Year!
http://www.google.
http://www.google.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:29 AM, paul7313 <paul7313@yahoo.
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> how do I invest options for inflation?
>
--
Adam
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[TheOptionClub.com] invest options for inflation?
how do I invest options for inflation?
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Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] pfe
Still significantly lower than it was a year ago, when they cut it in half. I'm not sure many will forget that bonehead move.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Vandollar <mercdesdrvr@yahoo.com > wrote:
See they raised their div, should help the price stablize
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[TheOptionClub.com] Re: Dan Sheridan on Calendar Spreads for 2010 (Live Web Event)
Rob, I'm sure it will be great, too! I never promise a recording but I
do always try to make one. It's just that I have had enough of the
videos become corrupted or damaged that I am not comfortable telling you
that it's going to happen. The bottom line is that if you can make the
live presentation that's always best. If not, let's hope the recording
works out.
Christopher Smith
TheOptionClub.
--- In OptionClub@yahoogro
>
> Chris, I suspect that this will be nothing short of GREAT! I'm a big
fan of Dan Sheridan. In fact, when I took his one day seminar at the
CBOE, it turns out we went to the same high school (but not the same
years, of course!). He's great to listen to, talk to, and just be with.
>
> I'm sure some of us other "working stiffs" will be asking, so let me
be first. Will this be recorded and available for download or some kind
of streaming video in the future?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob Hansen
>
> --- In OptionClub@yahoogro
> >
> > The New Year is just about upon us, and I have good things in store
for
> > you...
> >
> > To kick things of in 2010, Dan Sheridan from Sheridan Mentoring will
be
> > joining us on Tuesday, January 5, 2010, at 3:00 p.m. CST (1:OO p.m.
PST)
> > to share as much information as he can about calendar spreads in one
> > hour.
> >
> > https://www2.
> >
> > The above link will get you registered.
> >
> > We have a limited number of spots for this event so I encourage you
to
> > 1.) register now (not later), and 2.) log into the event 10 to 15
> > minutes early.
> >
> > I think most of our members are familiar with Dan...
> >
> > He is one of the most popular instructors over at the CBOE and
> > approaches all of his trading with a light sense of humor and keen
> > insight. He is particularly adept at income trades and has helped
many
> > of us sharpen our skills on iron condors, calendar spreads, and
more.
> >
> > With the launch of his own mentoring business, Dan's time has been
in
> > short supply. The fact that he has set aside some of it for us is
> > incredibly generous, so it would really be a shame if you missed
this.
> >
> > Get yourself registered, enjoy a very happy and safe New Year
holiday,
> > then I will see you next week following Tuesday's market close!
> >
> > Christopher Smith
> > TheOptionClub.
> >
>
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[ConservativeOptionStrategies] CC cefs BEP/RCC
These two funds pay twice a year but have yielded almost 20%, wouldn't be as efficient for me tax wise due to loss carry overs. Any opinions,comments?
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[ConservativeOptionStrategies] pfe
See they raised their div, should help the price stablize
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Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] rmbs
Fwiw - Fidelity allows bull put spreads and uses the spread $ against buying power (or $5000) per spread - whichever is greater,
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Vandollar,
Others on this group have given you the answer that yes you can, it depends on the option level approval that your broker will allow. May I share my experience as I trade with Schwab also?
Schwab is know to be the most conservative of brokerage firms. I wanted to add level 2 so that I could write simple spreads and was invited to apply for the pilot program to do spreads in IRA accounts, something Schwab has never allowed before. I have more than sufficient assets and years of trading experience. I was then promptly turned down not once but twice and also in my taxable account I use to generate income to pay the bills.
By the way, the brokers and option team specialists I have spoken with all agree, some Schwab polices are "out of whack." I can do CSPs (Cash Secured Puts) and buy long PUTs to create a spread with two trades and two commissions but NO WAY, can't trade it as a spread order. This makes little sense to me but that is Schwab.
Other firms tell me yes, you will most likely be approved with us for the trading you wish to do and I am thinking of transferring one account. I will stick with stogy old Schwab for the bulk of my IRA funds and one income account due to their excellent international and banking services. There is a very high probability that I will be enjoying a deeper level of retirement overseas and Schwab makes life simple for EX-pats living outside the US. I also use Schwab equity ratings as apart of my stock selection process.
Regards,
Jack
From: Vandollar <mercdesdrvr@yahoo.com>
To: ConservativeOptionStrategies@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 7:00:50 PM
Subject: Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] rmbs
Can an investor buy leaps and sell CCs against them? Schwab only lets me buy stock and sell covered calls or do unwinds. Any places let a small CC investor do this?
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Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] rmbs
Vandollar,
Others on this group have given you the answer that yes you can, it depends on the option level approval that your broker will allow. May I share my experience as I trade with Schwab also?
Schwab is know to be the most conservative of brokerage firms. I wanted to add level 2 so that I could write simple spreads and was invited to apply for the pilot program to do spreads in IRA accounts, something Schwab has never allowed before. I have more than sufficient assets and years of trading experience. I was then promptly turned down not once but twice and also in my taxable account I use to generate income to pay the bills.
By the way, the brokers and option team specialists I have spoken with all agree, some Schwab polices are "out of whack." I can do CSPs (Cash Secured Puts) and buy long PUTs to create a spread with two trades and two commissions but NO WAY, can't trade it as a spread order. This makes little sense to me but that is Schwab.
Other firms tell me yes, you will most likely be approved with us for the trading you wish to do and I am thinking of transferring one account. I will stick with stogy old Schwab for the bulk of my IRA funds and one income account due to their excellent international and banking services. There is a very high probability that I will be enjoying a deeper level of retirement overseas and Schwab makes life simple for EX-pats living outside the US. I also use Schwab equity ratings as apart of my stock selection process.
Regards,
Jack
Others on this group have given you the answer that yes you can, it depends on the option level approval that your broker will allow. May I share my experience as I trade with Schwab also?
Schwab is know to be the most conservative of brokerage firms. I wanted to add level 2 so that I could write simple spreads and was invited to apply for the pilot program to do spreads in IRA accounts, something Schwab has never allowed before. I have more than sufficient assets and years of trading experience. I was then promptly turned down not once but twice and also in my taxable account I use to generate income to pay the bills.
By the way, the brokers and option team specialists I have spoken with all agree, some Schwab polices are "out of whack." I can do CSPs (Cash Secured Puts) and buy long PUTs to create a spread with two trades and two commissions but NO WAY, can't trade it as a spread order. This makes little sense to me but that is Schwab.
Other firms tell me yes, you will most likely be approved with us for the trading you wish to do and I am thinking of transferring one account. I will stick with stogy old Schwab for the bulk of my IRA funds and one income account due to their excellent international and banking services. There is a very high probability that I will be enjoying a deeper level of retirement overseas and Schwab makes life simple for EX-pats living outside the US. I also use Schwab equity ratings as apart of my stock selection process.
Regards,
Jack
From: Vandollar <mercdesdrvr@
To: ConservativeOptionS
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 7:00:50 PM
Subject: Re: [ConservativeOption
| Can an investor buy leaps and sell CCs against them? Schwab only lets me buy stock and sell covered calls or do unwinds. Any places let a small CC investor do this? --- |
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Re: [TheOptionClub.com] Dan Sheridan on Calendar Spreads for 2010 (Live Web Event)
Am nt interested
On Wed Dec 30th, 2009 12:26 PM EST TheOptionClub wrote:
>The New Year is just about upon us, and I have good things in store for
>you...
>
>To kick things of in 2010, Dan Sheridan from Sheridan Mentoring will be
>joining us on Tuesday, January 5, 2010, at 3:00 p.m. CST (1:OO p.m. PST)
>to share as much information as he can about calendar spreads in one
>hour.
>
>https://www2.
>
>The above link will get you registered.
>
>We have a limited number of spots for this event so I encourage you to
>1.) register now (not later), and 2.) log into the event 10 to 15
>minutes early.
>
>I think most of our members are familiar with Dan...
>
>He is one of the most popular instructors over at the CBOE and
>approaches all of his trading with a light sense of humor and keen
>insight. He is particularly adept at income trades and has helped many
>of us sharpen our skills on iron condors, calendar spreads, and more.
>
>With the launch of his own mentoring business, Dan's time has been in
>short supply. The fact that he has set aside some of it for us is
>incredibly generous, so it would really be a shame if you missed this.
>
>Get yourself registered, enjoy a very happy and safe New Year holiday,
>then I will see you next week following Tuesday's market close!
>
>Christopher Smith
>TheOptionClub.
>
>
>
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