Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Re: [TheOptionClub.com] John Summa Presentation

 

Hi Ricky, based on my notes which are usually more difficult to read than a doctor's prescription:-), the next adjustment was the asymmetrical butterfly roll which created a profit "tent" in the P&L. So if the underlying continued moving higher, you could make a profit bigger than the original credit on the IC. The downside, of course, was that it was a more costly adjustment (as compared to normal fly roll) and had a bigger loss if the underlying went to the sky.

Hi Murthy, as you would have guessed anyways, WHEN to do adjustments was not "explicitly" asked or answered. He did mention though that he keeps an eye on the price of the verticals and flys on the threatened side. Once he sees them trading at a price which offers a reasonable risk/reward on the adjusted position, he makes the move. Given that trading is part science and part art anyways, there is possibly no right answer to this question anyways:-)

Cheers Vikas



 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Murthy N <optionsmaya@gmail.com> wrote:
 

In general, did he go over WHEN to do these adjustments?
 
Murthy

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote:
The first type of adjustment he presented was the familiar widening of
a condor by adding a butterfly at the wing.  Sorry, but I wasn't
paying close attention when  he presented the second adjustment.  Can
anybody supply what it was?  I remember that it had positive delta but
would be a loss at the wing if held to expiration, so if the
underlying kept going higher you could close the entire position or
just the call side for a profit.


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