Friday, April 23, 2010

Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] Long-Term CC System update

 


The following is one of the account with applying almost delta neutral strategy with 30% rate of return(Annulized) since beginning 2010.  There is some cash available as Dr Joe mentioned for adjutments to bring the position to neutral as the market moves up or down.   

 
Position Summaries
Symbol
 
 
 
 
P/L Open
P/L Day
BP Effect
AMD
 
 
 
 
($76.00)
$2.00
($250.00)
C
 
 
 
 
$625.50
($44.50)
($500.00)
EGY
 
 
 
 
($250.00)
($2.00)
$0.00
FORC
 
 
 
 
($780.00)
$5.00
$0.00
HL
 
 
 
 
($1,801.00)
$28.50
($1,750.00)
HOV
 
 
 
 
$562.00
$20.00
($1,000.00)
KGC
 
 
 
 
($263.00)
$22.50
$0.00
MNX
 
 
 
 
$5,448.00
($32.00)
($47,500.00)
QQQQ
 
 
 
 
$1,136.00
$169.00
$0.00
SPY
 
 
 
 
$1,512.50
$66.50
($13,000.00)
Overall Totals
 
 
 
 
$6,114.00
$235.00
($64,000.00)
 
 
 
CASH
$92,018.44
BP ADJUSTMENT
$0.00
AVAILABLE DOLLARS
$28,018.44
 
6000/64000 = 30%

 
 
 
 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Gilbert Arevalo <gilbert_arevalo@rocketmail.com>
To: compoundstockearnings@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com; CoveredCallFund-Mentoring@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 23, 2010 7:48 am
Subject: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] Long-Term CC System update

 
I have been using strict stop-loss methods, since I first got stung - with the "Asian Contagion" in Fall '98. You are absolutely correct in that writing covered calls isn't your automatic ticket to success. Going for high premium gains - involves risk (shocking I know), and without solid sell rules. . .well Joe Hooper  illustrated this remarkably.

A 25% loss requires a 33.3% gain to get back even. A 50% loss takes a 100% gain to make up. A 75% loss takes a 300% gain to make up.

Since 1998, I've cashed out of every downturn and I've been documented at my website, since Jan 2002. If you search my postings and related links, you will see that I again went fully to cash (once my positions stop out - stock purchase price minus option sell price - I go into my "wait-and-see" mode until the next market "bottom") by 10-SEP-2008, thereby avoiding the majority of the massive wave down.

I began to fully enter back into market on 16-MAR-2009. Anyone can now follow every trade take advantage of mentoring now available free at my Y! Group -

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/CoveredCallFund-Mentoring/

I'm not "smart", just prudent.

G


From: JoeS <joerew8@yahoo.com>
To: compoundstockearnings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 11:43:01 AM
Subject: compoundstockearnings Re: Long-Term CC System update

 


If Joe Hooper could not keep his Covered Call Fund going and had to close it down, what makes you think you are smarter than Big Bald Joe? He makes his money from selling seminars, not investing in covered calls like he teaches. CC's work great in a rising or horizontal market. How much did you get slammed in the downturn?

--- In compoundstockearnin gs@yahoogroups. com, Gilbert Arevalo <gilbert_arevalo@ ...> wrote:
>
> I did some research (sanity check) this morning on the very best long-term systems - including the #1 investment strategy as tracked by AAII (CANSLIM).
>
> IBD 100 index (since 05-May-2003) : +127.1%
> versus S&P 500: +28%
> Note: it had a 58.3% drawdown with the '08-'09 dump.
>
> "According to the American Association of Individual Investors (AAII), since January 1998, market portfolios
> traded according to CANSLIM principles gained an average of 1,859.3%,
> versus a gain of 23% in the S&P 500. . ." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_SLIM
> Meanwhile, my CC Strategy since 1998 has gained 3500%.
>
> Compare the results from professional money management company:
>
> CANSLIM PC (Jan-2001-Feb- 2010): 215%
> versus S&P 500: -4.6%
> Note: it had just a 20% drawdown.
>
> This last investment program most closely resembles my CC Fund
> approach, since it's "portfolio is a long-term growth vehicle that
> invests in leading growth stocks as the market rises and scales to cash
> to preserve gains during market declines."North Coast
>
> Compare Returns
>
> -CANSLIM PC- -KC PRO CC Fund- -S&P 500-
> 2001 12.5% 16% (11.9%)
> 2002 2.7% 1% (22.1%)
> 2003 55.5% 120% 28.7%
> 2004 31.5% 44% 10.9%
> 2005 13.8% 76% 4.8%
> 2006 10.1% 34% 15.5%
> 2007 12.5% 12% 4.9%
> 2008 (12.3%) 28% (37%)
> 2009 10.0% (6%) 23.5%
> 2010 (1.8%) (1.5%) 8%
>
> In conclusion, the above data re-affirms my long-term investment
> methods remain on point - despite lackluster trailing 9-month results.
> A) Risk: my 20% (max) drawdown is in keeping with CANSLIM PC
> B) Return: my 1,062% gain bests PC's 215%.
> C) Although both systems returns vary substantially from one year to
> the next, staying the course grows your account exponentially - despite
> the market's ups and downs.
> D) Since Jan-2008 (through the market crash and return from the abyss)
> my system has significantly out-performed growing 18.5% versus CANSLIM
> PC's loss of 1.8%.
> E) Drawdown: my DD during this period has been significantly muted
> compared to the drop and rise from PC, which is still off it's highs.
> F) 2010: Even though Q1 has seen a supposed market "correction" AND
> has a YTD 8% gain - both these systems have under-performed.
> G) Long-Term Systems: for the long-haul, this approach are still the most profitable for the individual investor.
>
> I'll leave you with a quote from the publisher of IBD who developed the
> CANSLIM method - the #1 investing strategy, as independently tracked by
> AAII.
>
> "90% of people in the stock market, professionals and amateurs alike, simply have not done enough homework." William J. O'Neil
>


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