Wednesday, December 2, 2009

Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] Re: Synthetic Call Strategy

 



With all respect, Jocelyn, wouldn't the strategy be a calendar instead of a vertical?
 
Phil
 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] Re: Synthetic Call Strategy

There is nothing new under the sun.  This is a way to trade calls using a vertical spread. 
I didn't invent it.  The place I got it from describes it as a long term directional income strategy.  It is a synthetic because it does not involve owning the actual stock.  Rather it trades the underlying using only options.  Hence the term synthetic.  Because it is synthetic it is cheaper to run requiring less capital at risk with a defined loss.
 
This does not involve buying a put for protection with a covered call.  That is another strategy entirely.  A good one, but it isn't this one.
Hope that helps.
 

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, joe & leigh <gass20@aol.com> wrote:

From: joe & leigh <gass20@aol.com>
Subject: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] Re: Synthetic Call Strategy
To: ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 4:19 PM

 
jocelyn,,,,not sure why you call your strategy a synthetic call strategy.... there is a know option strategy with that name that tries to mimic the returns of a call option. it is a strategy where one purchase the underlying stock and buying a put ATM. married puts and protective puts are examples of synthetic calls.....how does your strategy mimic the returns of a long call? drjoe

--- In ConservativeOptionS trategies@ yahoogroups. com, Jocelyn Palmer <jocelyn.palmer@ ...> wrote:
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> First, let me say thank you for letting me migrate from justcovered calls to discuss a strategy that I have been working on for the last few months.  It doesn't belong at justcoveredcalls, but is what I think is the next step in options for income and growth.
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> This is what I have been telling those who are interested in this strategy.  I have placed a file at this site titled Synthetic Trading Plan.  It is available for download.  SD stands for Standard Deviation.
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> The trick is to select channeling stocks.  The long must have a delta between .90 and .80 and be 6 to 8 months out.  This way it will act like cash.  LEAPS are too far out.  I think that this is where many go wrong.  You pay too much for LEAPS.  You can trade ETF's with this, but they don't generate the returns that individual stocks will. Try to stay out of an earnings month.
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> There are many places to find appropriate candidates, but Google Finance has a free stock screener that will do the trick.  Google Finance/Stock Screener.  Then search using market cap, beta, price, and avg volume.  You need large cap, liquid stocks with a price of $60 or more.  The beta is a range of .6 to 1.2.  Currently, I am trading POT, HES and MOS.  Other good candidates would include IBM and PEP.  I know broke the rule with HES.  HES is less than $60, but it is a stock that I am familiar with and I have been successfully doing covered calls for months with this stock.
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> After you have examined the Synthetic Trading Plan at the files section, feel free to ask questions.  I will help where I can.  Disclaimer, the risk is all yours.  Do your due diligence. 
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