Thursday, March 25, 2010

RE: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] Re: strategies

 

Hi Dr. Joe,

Thank you for a very detailed and enlightening post on your strategy.
I would like to clarify one item, having to do with position sizing.
If I wish to limit my position size to 27 contracts, you wrote that the
details would be as follows.
November sell to open 9 contracts ATM, 9 contracts 5% OTM and 9 contracts
for 10% OTM for February expiration.
Repeat for December and January each with one month later expiration.

Since I will have 81 contracts open at a time, if I wished to use cash to
secure the puts would I not need enough cash for 8100 shares?

Dan (dan2fl)

-----Original Message-----
From: ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of joe &
leigh
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:28 AM
To: ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ConservativeOptionStrategies] Re: strategies

mike my basic strategy for cash-secured puts is below: i do vary it on a
regular basis but
much the basic principles i use to trade it. i use almost exclusively
trade iwm. as you will read below i sell atm, 5%otm and 10%otm puts with
equal lots of each. over the past 194 months from jan 1994 to present iwm
dropped greater than 5% only 30 times or 15.5%, greater than 10% only 8
times or 4.1% and over 15% only 3 times or 1.5%.

CASH-SECURED PUT STRATEGY


INDEX
Diversified ETF: SPY, IWM (favorite), EFA, EEM, QQQQ, for example.


POSITION SIZE
Determine the size of the position if you were buying that index

for your buy-and-hold strategy. Do NOT leaverage !!!!!!!

If you wanted 2700 shares in your portfolio, then do not STO

more than 27 contracts. Assuming you have no shares currently.


EXPIRATION
Ninety days (90)

Leg in 1/3 of calculated position size every 30 days

ie. If 27 contracts is your determine final position size, then

Nov expiration STO 9 contracts Feb expiration

Dec expiration STO 9 contracts Mar expiration

Jan expiration STO 9 contracts Apr expiration

Feb expiration initial 9 expiring to be managed


STRIKE
1/3 or 9 contracts ATM

1/3 or 9 contracts 5% OTM

1/3 or 9 contracts 10% OTM


FUNDING
100% secured with cash or 50% cash account and 50% in

fixed income ETF


MANAGING OPEN POSITIONS


BEFORE EXPIRATION


If stock is above put strike no management required.

What are the options if the index is decreasing in price?


1. Close position at a loss

2. Buy leap puts for protection

If decreases 5%, purchase 50% leap puts

If decreases 10%, purchase other 50% leap puts

Strike at CSP (cash-secured put) strike price or

at current stock price based on your risk


Since the above 3 strikes gives one 5% protection

and I am willing to accept some loss, I place a contingent order in

the initial setup to purchase leap puts when stock decreases 10% and

I choose a strike that is 10% ITM. Ie. Initial setup stock was
$100.
The initial strikes would be $100, $95, $90 (0, 5%, 10% OTM)

I woud put a contingent order in to purchase the leap put with a
strike
of $100 when underlying decreases to $90.


3. Roll the CSP

Roll out and down and decrease number of contracts

Can be done for net credit or approx break even


example: based on Dec 2, 2009


IWM @ $58.99
CSP is Feb 58 Put @ $2.84 ---10 contracts


Look at June 56 Put and Sept 56 Put

June 56 @ $4.35
Sept 56 @ $5.55

Market drops 5% today to $56

Using option calculator the

June 56 increases to $5.57

Sept 56 increases to $6.67

Feb 58 increases to $4.32


BTC Feb 58 for 1000 * $4.32 or $4320

STO June 56 - 8 contracts for 800 * $5.57 or $4456

You have reduced your risk 20%

or
STO Sept 56 - 6 contracts for $4056 or

7 contracts for $4732 reducing risk 30-40%


Regarding rolling CSP's: each time you roll you should be
able
to decrease your exposure. First roll usually can decrease
10
contracts to 7 or 8, second roll the 7 or 8 to 5 or 6 and a
third
roll the 5 or 6 to 3 or 4. All without adding new money and

frees up margin each time


4. Do nothing until expiration



AT EXPIRATION

Stock > put strike price

Continue selling CSP same as above


Stock < put strike price and assigned

Sell covered calls 3 months to expiration

Strike NO less than cost basis, ie put strike at assignment

If premium is small because stock has dropped

significantly, sell at a strike less than cost basis if you

understand how to manage covered calls and prepared to

roll out to avoid being exercised before expiration

below your cost basis


GOAL be exercised at or above cost basis and go back to selling
CSP's



--- In ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com, "optionsmike"
<michael@...> wrote:
>
> Dr Joe,
> I'll start it off. I like writing front-month cash-secured puts. I
like to do them on somewhat high-beta stocks (e.g. TSL, IPI) and well as
more stable stocks such as PFE, MRK, XOM. I tend to avoid samll drug and
biotech stocks becase of past dissapointment. I try to enter these csp's on
down days. I will take a profit at .05 to .15, if reached, before
expiration. I write only enough puts (3 to 10 depending on the strike price)
that if assigned I'm equally happy and then will write calls on these. I
will consider putting a protective collar on some of these if they advance
far enough although I prefer to be called out. I do this in a tax-deferred
account. In my taxable account I like to do front-month credit spreads on
ETF's.
>
> Michael
> www.safe-options-trading-income.com
>
> --- In ConservativeOptionStrategies@yahoogroups.com, "joe & leigh"
<gass20@> wrote:
> >
> > i really would love to hear from people who are doing dls (calls) and
short puts selling cc's if assigned,,,,,,their entries, exits, adjustments
etc....do you use protection with long puts....maybe we can get a discussion
going....drjoe.....and by the way the person posted political has been
deleted
> >
>

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