Monday, July 19, 2010

Re: [TheOptionClub.com] Re: Adjusting Bear Call Spread

 

Thanks Joel. It seems that Halperin practices strategies related to
the reverse iron condors I have talked about here, but a lot more
sophisticated than converting one side to a fly while selling the
other side. The latter method often gets you flies cheaper than you
can buy directly, but not always.

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:13:56 -0700 (PDT), Arthur Schwartz
<comedynight2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

>http://www.btinternet.com/~phalperin/

>Above is the link.  See the article on Closing a ratio spread; last page; paragraph beginning "Moreover....."  where he talks about buying butterflies for a credit. 

>I was fortunate to meet Phillip in Moscow where he is a risk manager for Alpha Bank, one of the larger banks in Russia.  The way he explained it, is somewhat more complex than the article.  Take an underlying trading at 100.  He buys the 100 ATM straddle; sells the 90-110 (just OTM plus one strike) strangle three times; and waits.  His predetermined plan is to buy back the farther out strangle, twice , or at least one side of this double ratio spread, based on time decay or a move in the underlying.  for example a modest move up in the underlying allows him to buy the two 85 puts to lock in his put fly at a credit.  Then time decay and possibly a drop in the underlying allows him to close the call butterfly by buying the two 115 calls.  It is a dynamic trading strategy but only if you are willing to be naked short for a brief time.  There are significant risks yet the rewards are also great.....Joel 
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